Lost Boys & Co.

Lost Boys & Co... H ere (#1) we have the most crowded spot in the South Bay, the Hermosa Beach Pier.  People were wondering aloud if and when they were going to close the pier.  Well, they didn't do that, mostly because it wasn't quite that big this morning. The lighting was dramatic and then we couldn't help but nudge the levels around until we got this kinda brooding atmospheric thing going.  H azy sun this morning and 9miles visibility.  The air was a chilly 52.0º, not helped by the haze and the water was 62.2º, but didn't seem as warm as yesterday.  High tide was at 9:53am +5.6' and low tide follows at 5:20pm -0.7'.  It's a west swell out of 260º at 7.2' and it was 6' to 10' with some pretty dramatic drops and spectacular rides.  Calling for rain mañana, but you know how that works in So. Cal...  We'll be checking... H ope you had a good year and observed all of last year's resolutions.  Now it's time to maybe come up with som...

Lost Boys & Co... (We're not yelling, this computer won't let us justify the bold or italic of the text) So, here we are preparing for the holiday to come.  Maybe doing a little last minute shopping, munching on a bit of peppermint choco-bark or contemplating the real meaning of "merry"... But let us not forget the surf!  High tide at 5:23am +5.7' followed by a low at 12:33pm at +-0.0' (a tide that always makes us double check our sources).   A few clouds with offshore winds at 4 to 6kts.  The air temp is 60.8° and the water is 62.4°.  The sea surface is smooth and the visibility is 12 miles.  We have a west swell out of 271° at 3.9' and if you're at Sapphire (#1) this is what it looks like. Okay, Christmas is on Monday and we're going to take the day and dwell on our gift of family which happens to include you.  The diversions will be many so although we probably won't get to the report we will be thinking of you and what you mean to us an...

Lost Boys & Co... Y eah, Good King Wenceslaus, or you might know him better as "Vaclav the Good."  And yes we know he really wasn't King but a prince or duke.  According to lore he was assassinated by his brother "Boleslaus the Cruel" (so far we're not making any of this up!). He was actually a day late for Christmas and we celebrate his feast day on December 26 (or the second day of Christmas.).   Maybe it's the air up here in Eagle, Idaho or the fact that we flew into Boise at 2am, but just before the wheels hit the ground our pilot decided it was too foggy to land!  We diverted to Salt Lake City and left after a restless night in the SLC airport.  Still lousy visibility here in Boise, but our pilot threw caution to the wind and his IFR and landed us perfectly on the runway and not the adjacent freeway, to the enthusiastic ovation of the faithful... M eanwhile the surf looks like there's possibilities at Sapphire if you're patient and have ...

Lost Boys & Co... S o tomorrow we're looking at about 8hrs and 25 minutes of daylight.  Not to pressure you, but if you've got something you absolutely have to do during the daylight, best to get on it early!  On the other hand for our nocturnal friends (Jetski etc.) you'll be right in your wheelhouse. C loudy with intermittent rain this morning and 5 miles visibility.  Winds were primarily from the SE at 3 to 5kts and the sea surface is smooth.  The air temperature at checkout was 60.0º and the water is 62.6º.  Low tide was at 10:26am +1.7' and high tide will be at 3:57pm +3.7'.  There's a west swell out of 263º at 4.3' steaming through the office.  Honestly, a little more sand and it could get some character back very quickly.  What are you asking Santa for this Christmas?  Like Steve O' said, a few sand bars would be nice! O ff to the frozen north!  See you on the 28th! ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... V ery secret, very Santa, very merry.  A good time was had by all at the 4th anniversary of the first secret event.  To top it off the surf was pumping and the assembled crew gathered on the pier to watch some overhead thrashers come through and wipe out the 3 unfortunate guys who managed to paddled out.  The backwash was spectacular and the drops were long and steep... C loudy and a few drops here and there.  14 miles visibility.  Winds were offshore and the sea surface was smooth.  The air temperature was 58.3º and the water is 62.4º.  You are right around 98.6º.  Low tide was at 8:57am +2.4' and high tide is at 2:19pm +4.1'.  We have a WSW swell out of 250º at 4.9' and it was jumping from 5' to 8' all along the beach... W e'll be heading up to Boise for the Winter Solstice and the attending Holidays.  Yeah gang it's Christmas!  We hope to send some quick snips, but we hope you have a great holiday and you ha...

Lost Boys & Co... S o, you take a walk after a little get together at one of the local watering holes.  You think that walking out to the end of the pier will be a bit of a refresh and you won't have to worry about piloting your velocipede safely down the bikepath.  But those Hermosa civil servants take their jobs seriously!  Yep, right at 10pm they come down and close the pier for the evening.  Come on now!  Doesn't 10pm sound a tad early?  Of course if you're on the east side of the gates, no problem.  But if you're on the west side of the gates...  You get to be the first one to check out the surf in the morning! C razy morning this.  Visibility was 20 miles under cloudy rain threatening skies.  In fact a few drops fell at odd times during the day.  Winds were variable and depending on when you checked it could have been on, off or becalmed.  The water was 62.5º and the air was a preternaturally warm 53.2º.  Low tid...

Lost Boys & Co... A ll of the atmospheric conditions are absolutely perfect.  Skies are clear, winds are offshore by 2 to 4kts and the sea surface is smooth.  The air was winter-like 48.8º and the water is still holding at 62.6º.  High tide was really high at 9:06am +6.7' and low tide was really low at 4:41;pm -1.2'.  There were patches of dry sand inside the harbor.  We have a weak west swell out of 270º and it was almost 1' and looked like someone had left the pool cover on according to Jetski. F amilia!  Familia!  Familia!  You have no idea.  It's possible that we just solved your last minute Christmas gifting problems.  In a move as unorthodox as you are, we have created a SRUF Familia T-shirt.  If we were to say nothing else, the term "RING SPUN COTTON" should throw you back on your heels.  They have been painstakingly cut and assembled in our secret factory in El Salvador (thank you Oscar) and have been hand-printed u...

Lost Boys & Co... W e found ourselves continuously on the opposite side of the Nile from where we wanted to be next.  Which actually was fortuitous considering we got to be on the river every day.  You don't realize how closely the culture adheres to the river, considering that a few miles from the river it's the most inhospitable desert you've ever seen.  Not like the Mojave or the high desert where there are Joshua trees or cacti, there's not a blade of grass or even lichens to be found.  The river, of course, is charming and makes you want to spend you time on it's banks.  Here (#1) we have Sancho and LoLa heading over to the Luxor side of the river to do a bit of exploring... A bit of surprise this morning as some waves broke through the extremely high tide.  15 miles visibility and a few wispy clouds, not counting the smoke over the Marina.  Winds were offshore at 2 to 4kts and the sea surface was smooth.  The air was a chilly 49.1º and ...

Lost Boys & Co... F rom the reign of the Pharaoh Khafre (c. 2575 - 2465 bce) and thought to depict his face on a lion's body.  It's carved from a single piece of the limestone bedrock and is 240 feet long and 66 feet high.  The Nile came right up to the feet of the statue in ancient times and there's a causeway that connects the Sphinx and the pyramid of Khafre (the second largest one).  Napoleon's soldiers did NOT shoot off his nose, it fell in an earthquake ages before the French ever got there.  When British archaeologists were excavating, they found a large carved stone between the forelegs, but couldn't identify it.  Turns out it was the Sphinx's beard which had probably fallen off around the same time as the nose.  But the Brits won't give it back and if you want to see it you have to visit...

Lost Boys & Co... S o, who do you think got an early Christmas/Hanukah present this year?  YES!  Doc Scale snagged this beauty (#1) out of Danny's bay and had it waxed and tuned up before you could say Jack Frost!  Danny had been working on it in secret, keeping it from prying eyes and finally gifted it to Eddie just in time for the holidays.  Great glass job and pinstripes by Davey and the Barahona crew.  Now we just need some good waves for the maiden voyage!  Yay, Doc! C lear skies this morning and 16 miles visibility.  Winds were light offshore and the sea surface was smooth.  The air was a brisk 54.1º and the water is holding at 63.3º.  High tide was at 5:29am +4.9' and low tide follows at 12:08pm +1.5'. It's a WSW swell out of 256º at 4.3' and it was 3' to 4' as the crew hit an unpredictable mysto spot that opened up for them... C hristiano is heading up north for his contest this weekend for the SLO CAL Open.  Look for the WSL...

Lost Boys & Co... W e decided that if we were going to Egypt, we'd decompress on our arrival on the Red Sea at a spot called Hurghada.  Hurghada is noted for their clear water (no the water is NOT red) and vibrant coral reefs.  Well those things are true and in fact there was this spur of reef (#1) right off of our hotel's beach.  We did head out to one of the offshore islands one day and managed to stray off our appointed beach, get yelled at by the other beach's Nazis and not get excited by the dolphins that came by.  It was like, "Yeah, dolphins."  The boat driver was cataleptic.  "These are wild dolphins!"  "Uh, yeah, wild dolphins." we said.  "How often do YOU see wild dolphins?"  He asked incredulously?  "Almost every day." We replied a little snarky.  "Where are you FROM?" he asked.  "California.  We invented dolphins.  Like Flipper!"  He looked a little crestfallen.  "Hey, you can have so...

Lost Boys & Co... O ne of the questions we always get when we travel is "Did you have anything interesting or weird to eat?"  This time Egypt served up it's best camel and Sancho and the Professor claimed it was every bit as good as your favorite filet Mignon!  It came with mushroom sauce, baked vegetables and 7 peas.  Everyone, including a few Egyptians we met, kept insisting we were putting them on, but I'm here to tell you it was one of the best meals we had on the trip! F ew scattered clouds this morning with 19miles visibility.  Winds were offshore by 1 to 3kts and the sea surface was smooth.  The air was a pleasant 55.2º and the water is 63.3º.  Low tide was at 10:28am +2.8' and high tide is at 3:15pm +3.6'.  We have a WSW swell out of 250º at 3.3' and it was breaking close at 2' to 3' and not quite rideable. ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... W ell, we weren't too close to Memphis here in Giza as we skirted the Great Pyramid of Cheops on our way to the Nile.  As near as we could tell there isn't a bore on the Nile because the delta is so spread out that there isn't a spot where all of the incoming tide gathers and then goes up a central channel.  That's as near as we could tell.  That doesn't mean that somewhere along that stretch there isn't SOMETHING that resembles a bore.  We just didn't see it and we crossed the Nile at least a dozen times... A beautiful Monday morning on our way to the Holidays.  Partly cloudy skies and 15miles visibility.  Winds were light offshore 2 to 4kts and the sea surface was smooth.  The air was a chilly 48.8º (Hey!  It's December!) and the water is holding at 63.0º.  Low tide was at 9:00am +3.2' and high tide will be at 1:42pm +3.9'.  It's a weak west swell out of 262º at 2.6' and it was a crunchy 2' to 3' and not ...

Lost Boys & Co... E ditor's Note:  I'm going to first apologize for anyone who got a message from me via "Snap Raise" to raise money for the Redondo Surf Team.  I wanted to write a personal note, but my unfamiliarity with the site caused me to send out all my addresses with some boilerplate note.  That being said, the Surf Team is raising money and your donations will go a long way in making our program successful.  I tried to tag folks who have some connection to the school, being alumni, local surfers or part of the Familia.  Thank you for your consideration and if you want to help and you didn't get a note, go to http://raise.snap.app/join_code/923414119 and make your donation!  You guys are the best!  Coach Frank M orning dawned clear and cool with some lingering fog on the outside.  Winds were calm and seas were glassy (#1).  The air temp was 55.0º and the water is a Fallish 65.3º.  One tide today at 12:56pm +4.8'.  We ...

Lost Boys & Co... S omehow we neglected to print Kevin Gilligan's photo (#1) of the "Spooky Surf" crew.  From L. to R. we have Burnsy, Toph, Scout and Zac as tourists who didn't know that it was against the law to bring your dog to the beach.  So someone called Superman (Aaron) to come down and spirit them away.  But before the "Man of Steel™" could concentrate on the doggie he got distracted by using his X-Ray vision to not only see through Anuba's and C-Missle's clothes, but down to their bones!  Jah Minion came to hang five with the Unicorn/Seahorse/Christiano.  No wait, Christiano was there with the Tin Man (Larry Dairy) and Psychedelic "Doc" Einstein.  A curious crew, but fun and funny...  Next year we're thinking a Garibaldi costume... T here were more Garibaldi in the harbor than we saw at Catalina!  It was clear enough to see them because the sun was shining bright and the winds were offshore 3 to 4kts, leaving the surface u...

Lost Boys & Co... " W hen the surf is uncooperative, the uncooperative go paddling."  Here (#1) we have the crew, Jah, Tarsan, Ronnie, LoLa, Burnsy and the Professor plying the waters of King Harbor and beyond for a little diversion due to lack of surf.  To her credit Jah kept her streak alive by galloping into some knee slappers at Ainsworth, while LoLa and Burnsy scampered down to the jetty and back.  Tarsan and the Professor threw caution to the wind and shot the Monstadt, Horseshoe and Kincaid's piers in one fell swoop and managed to escape without raising much attention.  W hy all this hoomalimali?  Because even though the day was sunny and bright, winds were offshore and conditions were glassy, it was flat as a flannel cake.  The air was 58.8º as the crew pushed off, but rapidly warmed as they headed into the sunlight.  The water is 64.6º and only Tarsan braved the chill.  It's a SW swell out of 225º at 2.3' and it was less than half tha...

Lost Boys & Co... S o our fave photog Kevin Gilligan was on the scene on Sunday for this year's "Spooky Surf."  With years of chasing down action sports he was right on the scene to chronicle Doc Scale auguring into this unsuspecting citizen (#1) south of the pier.  Of course south of the pier is a "no fault" surfing zone.  Now, to the unpracticed eye it appears that Doc took off right into this guy, but what you can't see is that NO ONE SHOULD TAKE OFF WHEN DOC IS PADDLING!  His intense concentration, Olympic paddling style and lack of peripheral vision should deter even the most enthusiastic surfer from taking off within 50'.  This guy felt Doc's wrath!  For more action go to "Photos KAG"! A fter fun surf all weekend things died down today.  A beautiful morning with 20+ miles visibility under cloudless skies.  Winds were offshore by 3 to 5kts and the sea surface was smoothly brushed.  The air was a chillin' 48.8º and the water dro...

Lost Boys & Co... Y esterday's "Kickoff Classic" was held in some pretty miserable conditions, certainly not unheard of in the contest realm.  Small, windy and inconsistent the Women's Shortboard Division did a great job of making it look almost good.  Redondo had a great showing placing 2 women in the finals.  10ths of a point separated many of the contestants.  Here's how they fared: Round 1: 1st: Karis Bruno 1st: Keani Honda-Snow 2nd: Abby Bosse 3rd: Ryan Jurgens 3rd: Umi Morimoto Quarterfinals: 2nd: Karis Bruno 2nd: Keani Honda-Snow 3rd: Ryan Jurgens 3rd: Abby Bosse Semifinals: 1st: Karis Bruno 3rd: Keani Honda-Snow E xpecting the worst, we gathered at the water's edge this morning only to be greeted by small, but imminently surfable waves.  (#1.)  Winds were offshore by 1 to 3kts and the sea surface was smooth.  Mostly sunny skies and 10+ miles visibility.  The air wa...

Lost Boys & Co... A fter a long drought of Hermosa breaking on the sand and doing nothing but clobbering the shorebreak, it looks like a couple of the sandbars have retreated to the outside and are ready to provide some waves that aren't catastrophes waiting to happen.  The RUHS team had a great session (#1) in preparation for tomorrow's "Kickoff Classic".  It's one of the biggest contests on the coast with a couple of hundred participants.  Thursday's heats will feature the women, so if you want to catch some excellent girl's surfing, come down to Hermosa.  The contest starts at 6:30 and goes until about 8:30am. C loudy this morning with 5 miles visibility.  Winds were 3 to 5kts offshore and the sea surface was smooth.  The air temperature was 64.1º and the water is 65.7º.  High tide was at 7:40am +5.4' and low tide was at 1:34pm +1.2'.  We have a SSW swell out of 195º at 3.0' and it was 2' to 3' with some well shaped zippers reeli...

Lost Boys & Co... 1.)  H ere we have Suzanne on the violin with the group "Sin Palabras."  Cat Lincoln, from West Africa, is the lead vocalist and they're going to be preforming in various venues throughout the Southland this winter.  They also rehearse every Friday at the Topaz House from 6pm to 8pm.  Last week Boomfwappa sat in on one of the sessions.  If you want to hear some great contemporary music drop by and listen up! 10+ V isibility under partly cloudy skies.  Winds were steady offshore at 3kts and the sea surface was smooth.  The air temperature was 60.5º and the water was a wind dipped 64.4º.  High tide was at 7:13am +4.9' and low tide drains at 12:46pm +2.0'.  It's a west swell out of 267º at 4.3' and it was 4' to 5' and great if you were as fast as Christiano, but not if you were as fast as Burnsy and the Professor.  More tomorrow... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... O kay, at last we're ready to start considering Halloween.  Never you mind that stuff started appearing in the stores right after Labor Day, or that the costume closets have been vibrating for a month.  Nope, now it's time to start carving some pumpkins, breaking out the Dracula teeth and cape and waxing-up for "Spooky Surf."  We saw this ride (#1) in Kapolei a week ago in Hawaii.  There were skeletons on the front fenders as well... T alk about spooky surf!  This morning at 5:30am it was drizzling, verging on rain, with the wind blowing out of the west by 16kts.  By 7am it was blowing offshore, the bumps were calming down and Sapphire had 30 people out.  The air temperature was 61.2º and the water is 65.7º, driven down a notch by the winds.  High tide was at 6:50am +4.4' and low tide was at 11:48am +2.8' setting us up for some minus tides at the end of the week.  A west swell out of 265º at 5.2' and it was 4' to 5' with...

Lost Boys & Co... 1.)  A s much texture as you could possibly want this morning as the Redondo Team ran heats and braved the double-ups on the inside.  Despite the deteriorating conditions the team got some good waves and made it look almost rideable!  Cloudy though and 2 miles visibility.  Winds were onshore and increased throughout the day.  At checkout the air was 63.5º and the water is 66.9º.  Basically one tide today at 12:42pm +5.3'.  It's a windblown WSW swell out of 245º at 4.9' and it was 4' to 6' early and then backed off through the tide...  Check it mañana! ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... 1.)  H ere we have the surge threatening to engulf the bikepath at "Burnout."  Flowing back up the outfall the high tide was cresting all along the shore from the Pier to Torrance Beach.  This, in our humble opinion, is a good thing.  Looks like tons of sand being washed out to sea to replenish the diminishing sandbars that have plagued us all summer (summer?) long.  Let's see what happens! F oggies, dense this morning with sometimes less than 100yds visibility.  Winds were light on, from 12 to 3kts and the sea surface was smooth.  The air temp was 64.4º and the water is 67.6º.  An early low tide at 4:50am +2.8', leading into the reported high tide at 11:46am +5.6'.  It's a WSW swell out of 250º at 3.6' and there were some 4' to 6' thrashers pounding Hermosa, while other spots flooded out on the tide.  Should be interesting mañana... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... #1)  S howing Seamus Swift in the middle of bisecting an outside headed toward the office.  He had the max wave count this morning and managed to catchy them early and get out before the doubling shorebreak had a chance to mangle his board.  He's going to be one of the standout longboarders this year in the Zack Siegel mold.  Tally:  Two boards broken, a totaled foamy, lost fins and a cut finger... O vercast and traces of fog this morning.  Winds were light offshore according to the seagulls, 1 to 3kts.  The sea surface was smooth.The air temperature was 63.0º and the water is 67.5º.  High tide at 11:07am +5.8' and low tide is late at 6:46pm +0.3'.  A 4.6' west swell out of 272º and it was 4' to 6' and some on the edge, precision surfing this morning!  More to come, stay tuned... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... A spot-on action photo by Kevin Gilligan showing Lana and Milly splitting this nice Sapphire tumbler.  If the Familia ever gets wrangled into a team event you can bet these two will be in it! C loudy this morning with offshore winds at about 3kts and the sea surface was smooth to lightly textured.  The air temperature was 57.8º and the water is a surprising 68.7º.  Almost like summer is having a last laugh.  High tide is at 10:35am +5.9'.  Low tide will be at 5:51pm +0.2'.  There's a 4.3' west swell out of 271º and it was 3' to 5' at some of the standout locales.  Looks like more of the same mañana... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!! ">

Lost Boys & Co... C overing the sun wherever it may be in the heavens...  Here we have the ever popular Christiano Stutzcanhang, sporting the proper eye protection, following last Saturday's partial eclipse.  Shadows, reflections and refractions were all used to demonstrate the percentage of the sun's occlusion.  Rumors and plane tickets abound in the pursuit of the total eclipse in 2024, casting a long shadow across Texas and the Southwest...  We will report... V isibility ranged from a hundred yards to 10 miles as the fog rolled in and dissipated as quickly as it appeared.  Winds were light offshore and the sea surface was smooth.  The air temperature was 57.7º and the water is holding at 68.9º trying to keep Fall and Winter at bay.  High tide was swamping the bay at 10:09am +5.9' and low tide was at 5:05pm +0.2'.  It's a WSW swell out of 252º at 4.3' and it was 3' to 5' with pounders at Hermosa and some close-to-the-shore quickies at Sapphi...

Lost Boys & Co... " T here's a beautiful sunset burning up the atmosphere..."  And it was like that at the end of the Miloe compound at Ko'Olina... S urfed Kaiser's this morning and Miloe directed me to exactly the point where I could take off, go left, grab the rail and pig-dog over the falls.  Remember to always fall  flat!  Got floated over the reef and deposited on the inside beyond the lurking coral heads and repeated this routine two more times before heading to the inside.  Water was 80°, the air was 86° and the wind was offshore.  ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... W orking on the horrible surf situation in the South Bay.  Have now remanded our agent Barry Santos to the Aleutians to scout out the weather in that region of the planet.  Talk about Fridgidia...   In the meantime we keep experimenting with our GoPro™ to hone our sub-surface skills.  (#1) LoLa holding her breath...   B eautiful day in all regions...  More as we gather intel... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... S o, we drove around the North Shore looking for someplace to dip our toes.  And we ended up at Hali'ewa, checking out Monuments and snapped a pic (#1) of the outside at Avalanche.  It looked big and there was no one out on the peaks, but it was fun to watch anyway... T he South Bay still looks calm and most pacific.  One high tide at 1:45pm +4.8' but the 2.6' SW swell isn't enough to make it happen... L ooking for the smaller south shore mañana and we'll report when it happens... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... Got some small ones at White Plains on the south side of O'ahu!  Delightful conditions and a smiling crowd... "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... E arly GoPro™ experimentation (#1).  Primitive but somehow evocative...  Really, almost art...   T he South Bay has 10miles visibility under a hazy fall sun.  Winds were light and the sea surface is smooth.  The air was 64.0° and the water is a fallish 65.3°, which we all know is the precursor to winter...  Low tide is at 6:05am +2.8' and high tide is at 12:46pm +5.3'.  It's a south swell out of 171° and it might be fun if you were in El Salvador... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... Hawaii appears to be anchored in exactly the same place that we left it last time!  And who should be on hand to great us but King Miloe I!  Here pictured in front of his O'lo with his trademark smile™. Working on the surf and will have some updates mañana! ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!

Lost Boys & Co... T ide was low this morning at 5:07am +1.6' and it's high at 11:24am +6.2', which is pretty high for these latitudes.  Clear skies and 20+ miles visibility.  The air was a chilly 54.5° and the water was 66.0°.  So there's a 3.0' swell out of the SSW and there wasn't much to ride... O ff to visit Miloe & Barbina on the westside.  Our plan is to visit his secret spot and get some waves.  It's not exactly secret, but it's pretty sharky so most discerning surfers stay the hell away.  So, how discerning are we? W e're taking our computer hoping to note some re-con.  Let's hope the space keyworksthistime... ✠ "When the surf breaks, we'll fix it" The Professor!!